What is the BEST antivirus? Without a doubt that this question is being asked very frequently and it is a very debatable topic. This question has been asked a few times in forum and also I can’t even remember how many emails I got regarding this question. All this while I’ve been telling people that Kaspersky is the BEST, and I think I am wrong. I should be saying Kaspersky is one of the TOP antivirus, not best because many criteria needs to be evaluated and there is no single antivirus brand that performs the best in every area.
According to Anti-Virus Software Review 2008, these criteria should be used to evaluate an Anti-Virus and determine which is the TOP antivirus.
Ease of Use – Exceptional anti-virus software is simple to use, regardless of a person’s computer experience or knowledge of viruses. Effective at Identifying Viruses and Worms – The best anti-virus products identify infected files quickly through real-time scanning, searching for viruses in a multitude of sources, including email, instant message applications, web browsing and so on. Effective at Cleaning or Isolating Infected Files – Truly capable anti-virus software thoroughly cleans, deletes or quarantines infected files—keeping them from spreading throughout the hard drive or network. Activity Reporting – Anti-virus programs should give immediate notification of viruses found by real-time scanners and should provide an easy-to-read report of scan results, including what it found and what it did with infected files. Feature Set – A well-rounded feature set allows anti-virus software to provide absolute protection. The best programs are those that offer a wide variety of tools, from basic real-time scanning to more advanced, heuristic scanning and script blocking—when it comes to virus protection, the more options the better. Ease of Installation and Setup – Anti-virus programs should be a breeze to install, making it easy to go from installation to initial scan in just a couple clicks of the mouse. Help Documentation – High-end anti-virus software come with plenty of help, including support via email, online chat or over the telephone. There should also be online resources, such as knowledge bases and FAQs available for quick and convenient help.
I can honestly tell you that there is no way for an individual to compare all antivirus simply because lack of resources. We’ll need thousands of virus samples in order to test the effectiveness in detecting and removing virus. The easiest way is to leave it to professionals to do the test and we’ll just have a look at their report to determine which we would choose to use.
Anti-Malware Test Lab use the following methodologies to test an antivirus product.

# Polymorphic virus protection test
# Proactive antivirus protection test
# Antivirus product self-protection test
# Active infections treatment test
# Anti-rootkit test
# Packers support test
From their report, I can see that Kaspersky is the only brand that didn’t fail or get poor results in any of the test. I am surprised to see that BitDefender performs so badly in all tests.
We can’t depend on single report to determine which is the top antivirus. Here’s another popular website (AV-Comparatives) that compare antivirus software.

Every year they will perform On-demand comparative and Retrospective/ProActive Test twice. Products that got the “standard”-level can be understood as products that based on AV-Comparatives tests have a good on-demand detection rate, “advanced” a very good on-demand detection rate and “advanced+” an excellent on-demand detection rate. From their tests report, NOD32 has won AV product of the year twice in a row for year 2006 and 2007. Kaspersky won AV product of the year twice in a row for year 2004 and 2005. Kaspersky did pretty well in year 2006 and 2007 although it did not win AV of the year.
Next is antivirus comparison provided by LightSpeed Systems.

They’ve tested 12 antivirus products with 5861 sample viruses. LightSpeed Antivirus scored a 100% in detecting the 5861 virus. I don’t think it’s fair to include LightSpeed Antivirus in the test because they have the virus in hand, definitely they’ll make sure that their antivirus is able to detect the virus. Again, we see that Kaspersky has the second highest percent in detecting 5861 virus. NOD32 didn’t do that well…
Another test site we can take a look at is AV-Test.org.

Independent testing body AV-Test.org has released its latest set of results, with a large group of products tested against a number of criteria including proactive detection, spotting and removing active infections, and outbreak response times, as well as simple detection rates. Their latest test report shows that AntiVir, NOD32 and Norton scoring very well in all criteria. Kaspersky only did average in this test.
Final website that compares the features in antivirus software is TopTenREVIEWS.

This time we see that BitDefender takes the first place, Kaspersky second and NOD32 third.
Update: I found another website called virus.gr that collects virus and test them with antivirus. They currently have 246705 virus samples and tested them with 41 types of antivirus.

The latest report which released on June shows that G DATA has the best detection rate, followed by F-Secure, Trustport. Kaspersky 2009 is at number 4 and can detect 97.95% from the virus sample. Not bad for being at number 4 out of 41.
If I had to make a decision for myself to use which antivirus, I’d choose Kaspersky because it is able to maintain its top position in all tests except only 1 test that it only performed averagely. I noticed that Avira AntiVir does pretty well in the tests… So, after checking out all 5 reports, which antivirus software do you think is the top antivirus?
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For me I use Avast. and im satisfied with this product. and the good thing with this is that it use voice prompt cool..
I am currently using Norton Antivirus product and would like to change to Kaspersky.
Do I just uninstall the Norton Antivirus from my labtop and install Kaspersky. I heard that if I change the Antivirus product to another product, the previous antivirus product will release all the virus that it has previously undone, into my computer system. Is this true?
Thank you.
only kaspersky
anti virus are in a different execution and format works on every computer (sometimes not’ analyze Y?)… its ur choice which is the best for u… but i prefer Avira.. coz nothing to loos i you try
in battle 1vs1 AVG 9 kills kaspersky
Avira is the Best
Kaspersky Internet Security. Period.
i am computer technician for almost 2 decades. iam using avast anti virus that repairs any computer that is infected by a virus though there is kaspersky or nod 32 or avira or any antivirus installed on it
all antivirus are all the same as long as it is updated.
i like avast most.
Comodo internet security is all security option for free :)
Best software :)
To lloll,
U may use more than one antispyware in a Pc but for antivirus not [except u active only one "real-time protection" and disable the other]
For me I just use Avast Home edition that free and “userfriendly”, cause not all virus is harmfull. Think again what the virus mean……
Can i use more than 1 antivirus or spyware in a computer?
I am using NORTON 360 v.2 it is the best antivirus i ever used..it detects everything…CLEANS everything (nearly never deletes) 100% protectiong ..it detects virus from the file i am downloading and stops that download….American minister of defence said :Symantec is the best Cooperation for antivirus.Norton is the best of Symantec and is the best of this world!! it’s only problem is it’s slow down your PC BECAUSe it is always scanning your PC every second and checking every file in your pc every second. Use Norton and u will see the diffrence … and NOD32 is Stupid because it could not protect a PC from W32 Gammima.AG and the whole windows Got Corrupted because the Nod got DELETED FROM A VIRUS(Blocked by a virus) …SYMANTEC(NORTON) is the best!!
currently I am using nod 32 smart security its the best!!!!
try it.
AzzzRU, with all that installed, you have the best combination for security with the worst computer performance :P
best protecton!!!
Avira premum security suite , Norton Internet security , Kaspersky internet security 2009 make my PC protected from malware attack. this better combination!!
here in this forum WE are all free but some are LIAR ( not u ray but some people here ) on us be true to urself.
some said there using AV for more than yrs only to promote their AV….the one they claim BEST AV…
Avira AntiVir personal is the best for me never had a virus in years. I personally tested the detection rates.
I tried downloading a keygen that i know is infected with a virus Avira prevents it from accesing your comp
There are some possibilities to detect false positive
And their updates are useful you can download a manual update file when do not have an internet connection
Kaspersky is good too
AVIRA + Spybot Search & Destroy perfect combination for computer security
O r I can just remove the Virus manually with the help of AVIRA
I hate AVG NORTON NOD32 Mcafee Avast
I always changing my anti-virus but now on :-
ESET NOD32 Antivirus 3.0.669.0
My coming anti-virus BitDefender Total Security 2009
Happy surfing M8.
Hey Raymond
Hey EveryBody
I hav a question concern Avira AntiVir Rescue System CD
How I can choose the english language ?
The CD persist to launch the german one !
Thank in advance
It’s McAfee. It will not let you down, promise.
Zonealarm security suite the best . the AV that ZA uses is Kaspersky. The spyware is great also!
I\’ve tried Kaspersky on my client once, it\’s kinda heavy but i like the registry protection capabilities cause it\’s not easy to detect & delete a registry that has been modified or added by a virus, most virus put their startup in the registry so everytime the computer start the virus start too, and it also destroy ur windows settings from registry (i.e. no task manager, no folder option, etc). But it\’s not free.
I used to use AntiVir because its free and have a complete option settings that let u setup a various task like spe
I\\\’ve tried Kaspersky on my client once, it\\\’s kinda heavy but i like the registry protection capabilities cause it\\\’s not easy to detect & delete a registry that has been modified or added by a virus, most virus put their startup in the registry so everytime the computer start the virus start too, and it also destroy ur windows settings from registry (i.e. no task manager, no folder option, etc). But it\\\’s not free.
I used to use AntiVir because its free and have a complete option settings that let u setup a various task like specific routine scan, and it also let u send them a sample of suspected object or virus via e-mail so that they can study it ASAP an then give us back the result as an update to protect or remove that virus. But the problem is AntiVir must be updated via direct internet connection if want to have an up to date virus protection, if ur planning to download the update from their website then u will have to wait at least 3 month to get an update that can be download from their website. Its a real problem cause most of my clients
doesnt have internet connection, so i have to wait at least 3 month to get an update from their website. At the end i have to remove the virus manually using utilities from other software & sometimes it end with reformatting & reinstall the Windows if i failed. AntiVir also bothering me because it keep detecting my program crack & keygen as a virus & sometimes it delete it, so i cant install the program since the crack & keygen is \\\”missing\\\” & so i must put alot exeption on the exclude list.
So i decide to use AVG 7.5, and i like it, its scans faster then AntiVir, doesnt detect most crack & keygen as virus, & more impotant it has a new update in their website every week. Too bad it doesnt have a complete option settings. When AVG 8 available i decide to try it, and now it already has a complete option for scanning, schedule, etc. And now it has a link scanner & anti-spyware. And the realtime protection will detect & remove a theat in background, it wont ask you what to do, it will only show u a notification that it has detect & remove a virus. So i think the best Anti Virus is AVG.
je pr
avg for me.
Avira Antivir: free, easy, light, powerfull.
If you opt for the free version of any anti-virus programs available, then the best is AVG free anti-virus. But when it comes to paid versions, there is no doubt that NOD32 is the best. Here is why:
1. Very light on system resources.
2. Fast detection
3. Automatic updates and on line scanner
4. Easy and user friendly
5. Being a product from Bratislava, Slovakia, not much hackers have tried to hack this software.
6. Threat sense configuration and warning.
7. Easy integration with mail clients
In short, I have used all the free anti-virus softwares, but when coming to speed, reliability, ease of use, and performance, NOD32 is the best. Slovakia do not have reputation of great software products, but this particular company there does it great as far is computer security is concerned.
For free AV’s, Avira and Avast are among the best. The pay version of Avast has a nice bootscan that can be set for the next bootup, and allows for control of several shields.
Avira PE Classic and Avira PE Premium (payware) are two of the best AV programs out there. The premium version added a webguard and both have anti-rootkit plugins too.
Both Avast and Avira have excellent forums, too.
I am using avg 8.0 and every time the anti-virus and anti-spyware needs updating. This pose a big problem for me cause every time i do an assignment it is corrupted and cant open even if i store it in my document, desktop or my thumb drive it is all destroyed.
kaspersky;
is the 2007-2008 most used AV, an easy & smart AV, trusted by more than 40 PC Lab over the world, Kaspersky protects your PC from the 97% of virus and spy risks . . .
Kaspersky is the best . . .
I think NOD32 and Kaspersky are the best at detecting and Norton a close second. Kaspersky claims to be very light on resources, but it slowed down my computer heaps and used about 50 MB RAM. NOD 32 is good at detecting new and unknown viruses through it’s advanced heuristics engine, ThreatSense.net, but it seems that it’s virus database is a bit smaller than other brands. Norton seems to be doing very well now. Over the years Norton became very unpopular because of it’s high resource usage, but now it only uses about 10 MB RAM when scanning and the real-time shield only uses 2 MB. I am very happy with Norton and NOD 32, but in the near future, I may come back to Kaspersky if they can make their products better.
If you like an AV that consumes very little system resources and is very effective at protecting your PC from infection, I highly recommend Eset Nod32. I went with this AV particularly for the low system resources since I use my primary PC for PC Games. Very satisfied with this anti-virus and in December, I purchased a 2 year subscription for v3.0.
My second choice would be Kaspersky AV which I have installed on my Secondary PC and Laptop (Thanks goes to Raymond for giving the tip on getting FREE Kapsersky Keys!). We sell this AV at our PC repair shop to customers, but when we install it, we completely leave out \”Proactive Defense\”, since most PC users don\’t have a clue what to allow/terminate/deny/etc..
For a completely free AV, go with Avira. MUCH better AV than AVG. The only problem with it is the pop-up that occurs every time your virus definitions are updated. There are steps to disable this though… You may also consider Avast which is free and is a very effective AV solution.
McAfee/Norton sucks.
Nortoon Antivirus Is the Best which protects My PC.
i would say kaspersky
but i dont use any antiviruses. i do self protection for my pc.
i don know. i am asking what about avg 7.5 or avg 8.0? I don have any problems. AVG working great.
Avira AntiVir is the best AV right now. Not only does it have among the highest detection rates, but it is far and away the best at detecting zero-day viruses.
Avira antiVir personal edition is the best free Anti virus now. but if i had to buy i would put my money on KasperSky 8 when it comes, it does look so promising.
I use Nortan Internet Security 2008. Its the best.
Security,Performance,Speed
Ah all these reviews and stuff
I dont know i am still confused..I managed some 100 computers…and each time i fail to identify which one to use when it comes to AV.
I can manage a lot of s/w’s but AV’s I am still dumb. May be someone can help me
eBRo
Common sense first, AV second, IMHO. :D
I prefer Node 32. Effective protection, Light on system.
I vote for OSX. – as there are no virus’ in the wild yet.
Seriously though Kaspersky and NOD32 are highly regarded. I think Kaspersky has only failed one test. As I remember last June they pulled a brand new virus from their database for further analysis over the weekend the test was run. It detected it using heuristics but just could not give it a name, so it failed.
I think that both offer excellent detection, neither mess up your system, both are easy to use but don’t treat you like an idiot. And neither is a resources hog.
I choose Kaspersky over Nod as they keep offering free 3-6 month trials in one country or another all the time. Where as Esset Nod never do. So I have been trialing Kaspersky for two years now ;)
No antivirus I know of prevents spy/scum/ad ware and neither does anything I have come across, even if that’s its only purpose in life e.g. adaware, spysweeper etc. Apart from browsing through a sandbox – Sandboxie. Now that is really effective.
I am currently using Kaspersky Antivirus 7.0.125.
Has a decent look and a professional feel.
I like this particaularly because of its frequent updates that keeps my computer protected from almost all the viruses trojans malware etc.,
Also it has a powerful resident scanner and Proactive defence technology that monitors each and every activity of your computer.
I am very much impressed with the Reports and Datafiles that give a complete detail of what is scanned and what is done after scanning.
I can also keep track of the websites that i have visited if they are deleted fro my history.
So i prefer Kaspersky
There’s no best antivirus. I have:
Eset smart security
Avira Premium
(av’s listed below are from this blog ;) )
a-squared
Norton Anti-bot
I think this pack is 3 times better than one AV, such as kaspersky.
BitDefender is the best but it takes allot of Pcs resource
Nod32 great but to slow in updates
Kaspersky overall IS THE ONE .. ^.^
But now I\’am using BitDefender Total Security 2008
NOD32 is perfect.>>>>>>>>>> I like it …
Oh ya one thing to add… Resources taken up by antivirus is very crucial for a gamer and this is why norton, trendmicro macfee is not very popular and sometimes viruses can come even from norton and they come out with the antivirus claiming that they had stopped the virus
Actually kaspersky is not as strong as you all say it was because viruses caused via vbscripts are commonly not detected and almost executed everytime.
–> Kaspersky / Avira / Nod32 I have tested them all …
–> AVG 8 free / Avast 4.8 Home / Avira 8 Personal are the latest free Av’s for non commercial use
All I can say is even u do have the best AV there at ur Pc it wont protect against all 3 million malwares..
No 100% Safe in cyberworld even the FBI have said that the best way to protect ur Pc is to” TURN IT OFF ”
Knowledge is the best defence…
Also be Responsible …
Malwares are Unstoppable …
In my opinion it’s better concentrate on not getting any viruses on your computer in the first place….then there’s no need for any antivirus at all. All in all, I think for an advanced user any antivirus software in the top 10 will do :-)
Hi there!. Last year, while using Norton, I got a cocktel of malware someone sent me by email; Norton AV only reached to notice there was an \\\”attack\\\”, and then was disabled and my PC (P3) blew down. Now I have Kaspersky 7.0; it was \\\”tested\\\” a few times against viruses incoming and it has done it job very well. I really don\\\’t mind if KAV demands a lot of resources of my PC; the point is: my PC is protected!!.
Regards…
no doubt kaspersky.
i choose Dr Web
its light and fast..
you can try the free portable edition
freedrweb.com
Avira is great here.
I ‘ve been using Avira Antivir Free Edition for 3 years now and no matter what I ‘ve tested, I always go back to it – its also perfect for old computers as its the most lightweight of all (check this).Now I took advantage of the 6 months premium offer they have and am currently testing it.
I like programms that dont overload CPU and memmory, and under this scope I think NOD32 deserves its good words.Other than that KAV is very good too, but demanding in computer resources – just my personal opinion.I never use Norton or Mcaffee anymore as I think this products used their good reputation and stopped being that good as in the past.Plus they demand quite a lot in resources.
i dont care, no antivirs can really protect u from anything….
just hav to be responsible while browsing
Well, hands down NOD32. If you have a P2~3 system NOD32 runs like a charm. I am quite satisfied with it anyway considering my virus detection rates i don’t think i need all around protection for things which i never come across.
Anything which bloats down my system is considered virus in my books.
And most of the Top AVs do that :(.
Avira 8 is the best according to most of the sites you\’ve suggested and I also use it for one year and a half and it works very good.
First of all – I’d have to say – I used to love AVG (for those AVG lovers out there – but have years since grown) – I like to have good antivirus without a huge amount of diskspace as well – (some people have mentioned that) – I personnaly havent tried the bitdefender or NOD32 but have tried Avira (not for me) and Kaspersky – (as people say it is kinda big in size) …
But I have a question for Sam Ahmed – you said you “discovered that the antivirus companies themselfs black mail each other with new viruses” … I’d like to know where you discovered this, cuz I’ve yet to hear of it through ANY grapevine.
for sure nod32 is the best. i am using for 3 years now and i am very pleased to use it.
kasperksy 100% runs slim and have not had a virius since iv started using it about 2 or more years ago
Used to use NOD32 (2.7) but when it went to 3.0 I switched to Avira AntiVir. It\\\\\\\’s free, it works, and I\\\\\\\’m happy. :)
no doubt, Kaspersky. Work on all windows.
All laptop (100082) and PC for Malaysia Ministry Of Education use Kaspersky AV 6.0 Workstation.
Before we use Kaspersky, we have use a lot of AV. Here is what we find out.
Other AV that only work on \’super computer\’. On some system, Bitdefender and Norton is the cause of the pc hang or fail to respond and not virus attack. AVG fail virus detection numerous time thus making it unreliable.
Well, maybe other AV work on your system, but not others. We tested it on all system we have and not just one or two like home/personal/end user.
The verdict…
Kaspersky just… work perfectly.
Avira is very good, get 6 months avira premium licence here
license.avira.com/en/promotion-t0q1aatr05zwftftgnqr
I use AVG 8.0 Pro Edition. Well I shud say AVG has protected me and worked very well. Just to share my info for non-AVG users; AVG loads heavier than free edition relatively SMALLER than what u think. It also so far detects all of the virusses I tried to implant or spywares I sometimes encountered. All of the threats I have can be cleaned or moved to vault. It is very simple to use just install and update with ease. Settings can be set just like how we want it. Then about the negative side… AVG blocks MSN Messenger. Dun shout yet coz there is a solution to get rid of this. And then AVG is also not compatible to Windows Theme change (using WindowsBlind or Stardock or TuneUpUtilities).
To think about those, I have also considered about Kaspersky after my next reformat if I have :X
Anyone can share Kaspersky experience?
Personally i believe that if you know what your doing with computers you dont need on access protection. Thats why i use Norton Antivirus but only the antivirus with none of the rest of the crap.
i would NOT reccommend AVG free. I used to use it until my computer went dodgy. i then install AVAST, and it detected 12 viruses. i then install Norton, which detected 15 more. i advise to NOT use any free AVs, they are free for a reason.
Currently using Bitdefender AV which i think is pretty cool. Kaspersky 7 increases my laptop\\\’s startup time from 2 minutes to a full 5 minutes! to me the most important thing an antivirus should have is it should not slow down the system
I am waiting for AVG to force an upgrade from 7.5 to 8, as they usually do not too long after bringing out a new version by stopping updates for the old version. Then I will try Antivir free and if I like it stick with it. Fortunately, the only thing missing from AntVir free, compared to AVG 7.5 free, is e-mail scanning. However, because my hosting company includes free automatic AV and malware scanning for all e-mail accounts at the boundary using Norton Corporate version, I never enabled the e-mail scanning option in AVG, so the lack is not something I need worry about.
Of course kasperski
I had Kaspersky for a year but it was too bloated so I switched to NOD32 and it works better for me.
I use Avira Personal (free version) and the update works very well. I already tested NOD32, norton and avast, and the fastest and most secure in my opinion is in fact avira.
I\’m just a little disapointed with its performance on the self protection test.
take my words people nothing is perfect even if your antivirus alone doesn’t protect you from one trojan.
i used all anitivrus and i can tell you honestly none of them can protect you 100% and always there is a bug some where and remember that hackers always attack first with new codes
the best way is to change your antivirus software protection each week
finally i would like to mention that i discovered that the antivirus companies themselfs black mail each other with new viruses
i use avast!
fast, clean, updated, and protector,
for me is the best
best regards
Kaspersky :)
AVG 7.5 and no problem with anything … :-D
I prefer Kaspersky…
I like Avira, NOD32 and Kaspersky. They are very good, I don’t think Bitdefender good! But I hate Avira because we can’t update when use a trial version, NOD32 is very small but It is not effective (missing spyware and trojan), Kaspersky misses a lot of adware (Example: Utimate Cleaner,…).
I choose nod32, without a doubt
low resources, fast detection
NOD32
Many thanks for the links to all the tests Raymond, gonna check them all out!
I vote for kaspersky 7 as its the most user friendly and provides protection against almost any modification on your system. It can get annoying for regular users but it has the setting of choosing the best option for u automatically! Kasperysky is a little bit slow in terms of scanning and application launching though compared to nod32.
Kaspersky 8 is much faster and looks better but it has lost its user friendliness, and also to the fact its in beta stages.
I think for old slow computers, the best AV is either Zonealarm security suite or
Kaspersky
(but i recommend zone alarm security suite as it is more stable)
For new PCs that are really fast i think Norton AV, its the best i think.
but not suitable for slow PCs as it consumes both ram and cpu
Hey kaspersky is no doubt one of the best but even Avira Anitvir is damn good i used the Personal classic edition
i say eset nod32 or Gdata
I would say Eset NOD32 is the best; very effective, takes up the least system resources, and has been voted most used on a couple of internet polls.
currently using nod32. kaspersky looks good and might try in my other pc…
BitDefender! I Choose You!! :-D
according to top10 antivirus for 2008, bitdefender is the best, then kaspersky, then NOD32, well, we are all looking for a faster pc and to be protected while browsin’.. i used to format pc every 3 to 4 months and changing antiviruses again and again.. but this is a best advice, i have tested windows xp royale with bitdefender total security, …with a very stable xp and cool security, i have no problem at allllllllllllllllll.and now it really looks like like i forget how to format a pc, lol, ( 8months now, with intel (R) celeron (R) CPU 2.66 GHz and 512 of RAM, im pretty satisfied
avira 8 period.
AVG blocked my net after a while, so i was forced to get another one. Norton didnt work out, and i finally got Kaspersky
oh,my pc is too slow to run a kaspersky ^!^
Currently using Kaspersky 7. It has never failed me. Never have my pc got infected by viruses so far. I guess what makes it popular is that it’s easy to use and light with high detection rate.
I’m probably gonna use Kaspersky 8 next year unless if there’s better AV.
avg 8.0 is good
Beta version of new Kaspersky v8 is very good ;) … few fixes, and it will be a perfect release :)
Computer is running few times faster with v8, if we compare with v7
I\’m pretty satisfied with Nod32, both 2.7 and 3.0 versions. I choose them… :D
I choose Avira Premium Edition than Kaspersky. I have use it for three years and its protect my computer from any malware or virus. Suggest to all members…
I only hope that the upcoming Kaspersky 8 will not be a bloatware.
kaspersky let my pc drown. but useful. but i use the free edition of bitdefender. no realtime protection but it cant detect and delete the viruses that infect you system or files.
Ofcourse, Kaspersky ;)