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Download and Use Older Version of Windows Live Messenger or MSN Messenger

Posted By Raymond In Category: Computer

Mar
27
2009

The new Windows Live Messenger 2009 looks very nice but unfortunately it is very fragile. Very lucky few users have no problems at all connecting and using Windows Live Messenger 2009. I consider myself very lucky because the only problem I have is with the webcam and I managed to find a workaround to get it working. For those that could not get Windows Live Messenger 2009 to work, here are a few things you can do.

Try to uninstall and then reinstall, hoping that it would work but the truth is it will never work. Another possible solution is to uninstall WLM 2009, download an older version of Windows Live Messenger 8.5 and try to install. This won’t work as well because you’re going to end up with the error “Your computer has a newer version of the Windows Live product(s) than the one you are trying to install. To install an older version, first remove the current version.” You can also try to install MSN Messenger 8.0 which would work and seemed to be connecting but you’ll end up with a popup asking you to upgrade “A newer version is available. You must install the newer version in order to continue. Would you like to do this now?” Click Yes and it brings to install the buggy WLM 2009. Hit No and it won’t connect.
downgrade Windows Live Messenger to old version
You can’t use new WLM 2009 nor the old WLM 8.0 or MSN 8.5. So the only workaround now is to use Meebo, Digsby, eBuddy, ILoveIM, KoolIM, IMhaha to connect to .NET Messenger Service. Not to worry because here is a tip on how to use an older version of Windows Live Messenger 8.5 or MSN Messenger 8.0.


First of all, make sure that Windows Live Messenger 2009 is totally wiped off from your computer. Use ZapMessenger to remove any trace of WLM 2009. Then download Windows Live Messenger 2008 build 8.5.1302.1018 from here. Install and you should be able to connect without problems and without forcing you to update to the latest WLM 2009.

Yes it’s that simple and it works on my side. However if somehow you are still being forced to update, here’s a simple hack on how to trick MSN servers into believing that you are using the latest Windows Live Messenger 2009. Let’s go through step-by-step on how to hack MSN Messenger 8.0 to connect without being forced to update.

1. You can download MSN Messenger 8.0.0812 from OldVersion.com

2. Use ZapMessenger to uninstall any version of Messengers on your computer.

3. Install MSN Messenger 8.0.0.0812.

4. Download Resource Hacker, extract and run ResHacker.exe

5. Go to File > Open and browse the following location C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe for MSN Messenger 8. For Windows Live Messenger 2008 build 8.5, it will be in C:\Program Files\Window Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe

6. Expand Version Info and expand 1.

7. Click on 1033.

8. Look for the line VALUE “ProductVersion”, “8.0.0812″ and change the 8.0.0812 to 14.0.8089.0726.
Hack Windows Live Messenger 2008

9. Click the Compile Script button.

10. Go to File > Save and close Resource Hacker.

Try connecting now and voila! .NET Messenger service server thinks that you’re connected using Windows Live Messenger 2009 build 14.0.8089.0726 when you are still using the good old MSN Messenger 8! OK using an older version of Windows Live Messenger is probably not the best solution but treat this as a temporary solution until the Messenger developers release a not-so fragile version of Windows Live Messenger 2009.
Connect older version of Windows Live Messenger 2008

Note: If somehow you could not install the older version of WLM even after cleaning it with ZapMessenger, then please try the other cleaner called Messenger Deep Clean.


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  • Clean your MSN/Windows Live Messenger Interface
    • LunarWolf

      First vista and then now WLM. When will MS team learnt?

      Wow, you got 2252 messages! Lol.

    • http://www.raymond.cc/ Raymond

      Thanks to spammers, I have 2252 messages and counting. LOL!

    • Yu Meng

      I didn’t like the old version and i like to stick with WLM 9.0 though i didn’t have any problem on WLM 9

    • razor

      Why you are not deleting them?

    • Yu Meng

      Deleting them is wasting of time instead keep it in inbox. L0L

    • Blackrose

      Thanks Ray, I have to download the latest version to use WLM, with Resource Hacker I will always use this.

    • tux

      Now this is why I’ve subscribed to Raymond’s posts by email. See the features WLM2009 removes here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Live_Messenger#Windows_Live_Messenger_2009

    • Sin Citadel

      u can also just uninstall windows live messenger 2009 and then install the version 8.5 or less.

      simply download the windows live messenger 2009 redistributable file from softpedia or any other site and save it somewhere ( e.g, Desktop )

      now open command prompt and navigate to desktop and type

      msiexec /x .msi and this will uninstall it

      Now, u can install the old msn version.

    • Sin Citadel

      msiexec /x windowslivemessenger2009.msi

    • Umair Raza

      another way is to go thru the registry and delete the files for the new version and then u can just install 8.1.0178 which is quite good too..the guide you can find it on google.. :)..anyways thanx raymond for this tip..it shall be helpful..

    • Somebody

      I have MSN Messenger 2009 installed on my Vista Home Premium computer and it works fine. I also installed it on two XP machines and it works fine on both of them. The webcam also works on all three installations. I have to say that I am happy with the product.

    • Mark

      Thank you Raymond!!

      I needed this!

      *High Fives Raymond*

    • Raitokun

      Thanks man. But i hope Microsoft releases a fixed version of wlm 2009 soon …

    • Merlin_Magii

      Great bit of work Raymond – thanks.

    • juhani

      Well, I’ve never had any ‘upgrade’-popups when using an older version. And, in case that happens, I can always use Pidgin or Trillian or whatever…

    • SomeAngryUser

      Thanks a lot Raymond. This piece of sh!t called WLM2009 should be banned for life from all pc of this planet. Big thanks again you saved the day!!!

    • helena

      Thanks Raymond. I installed old version without problems,so happy can keep connection with my family oversea.

      Thanks

    • ben

      raymond! as we hate the new msn version, we love you for your solution ;)

      GREAT WORK!

    • Mel

      I’ve tried everything and still can’t get old version back. I used zapmessenger and DeepCleaner and I tried to change using Resourse Hacker but it won’t let me save it. Im running Vista, any ideas please as I hate this new msn. Thanks Mel

    • mykul

      i love you man, i got msn 7.5 to work with the same trick, badass :D

    • sdgksdjkjsdg

      same problem as Mel…

    • Koray

      everything is ok but at last step it does not let me to “save” it. everytime it tried i was met an error like this “Cannot rename original file. Saving cancelled”.

      after that i tried to save as msnmsg2.exe and replace it the original file. after cleaning original file, i deleted it and tried to run msn with new file. but it did not :(

      what must i do. please help. coz i want to use xp n hate vista…

    • miki

      Hiii! I was wondering… for some reason I couldn’t save the reshack file when i altered the number. Do I have to use 8.5 or is it okay for 8.0.012? I was able to do it for 8.5, but every time i tried to save the reshack file for 8.0.012, and it told me i couldn’t save it.

    • ang

      J like to install windows live messenger but j have problem.Please help me ! :(

    • rocketeerx

      I was one of the many people who lost their Contact List after installing wlm 9 at home, so thanks for the advice, now I’m using wlm 9 at my office but wlm 8 at home ;)

    • louise

      I hate the new version of MSN, and managed to uninstall it and install an older version but my problem is when I open Resource Hacker, I can’t save the file. “Cannot rename original file. Saving cancelled”
      Do you know how to save then?

    • http://? Erika

      I did all these steps and it worked.
      EXCEPT for the fact that my contact list is now GONE
      can someone help me with this?
      When I login using jurassic msn messenger that comes with windows xp I can see my contacts fine. but when I login with msn messenger 8… my contacts list is missing! please help me!

    • Ricky

      wow man…..u solvd ma prblm…thnx alot!!!

    • Mell

      Hey! I’ve followed your every step, but step 10 give me a little problem! I couldn’t save it for some reason. It says “Cannot rename original file. Saving cancelled.” What do I do? Anybody help?

    • Exalandra

      I have followed the steps and successfully signed in with WLM 8.0.0812. But the problem is all my contacts are gone! What should I dooo??? Help please!

    • Yasmin

      Everyy time i try and get anyonee to view my webcamm it dosent work and it just disconnects andd its really annoying me. so i read on sites to download the older versions but would this help or not as i ahve tried all sorts and nothing has worked ?

    • http://Ummm. Nick

      The resource hacker won’t work. I get to the compile script part then it won’t let me save it.

    • jsza

      thanks a zillion. the new messenger didnt work and too much complicated to fix, so i reverted to the old version. i found the solution here..and now can use my messenger again..

    • Roo

      Thanks you SOOOOOO MUCH!!!!
      Ray, I would give you a big, giant hug if I could! :D

    • Help

      Zapmessenger dont work:S i get (0xc000007b) error message when i open it… i am norwegian so i dont know how to translate the error message:P sorry.. plz help

    • luca

      to me do not work… always fixed the message . :(

    • Daniel

      i love you!!!! you saved my life! you are a freaking genius!

    • EAMN

      hiiiii every one i neeeeeeeeeed help i did all the steps but when i saved this msg appear

      the original file cannot rename??!!!!

    • jack

      hi,i try ur method but still cant,it keep call me update…i using xp 64bit ..help pls

    • joe

      it didnt work.. im still gettin the message i must install a newer version………..

    • Seana

      hey, i’ve read through the list of things above for me to do in order to have my messenger work however… nothing is working for me…
      i run windows xp the only version i have been able to download of the messenger is ur link above and it continues to ask for an update even tho i have tried all you tricks… please help me..

    • Tschwen

      Hai, I need help here, I got the same problem as EAMN, can anyone help???

    • Alice

      Thankyou so much! I hated the new version and now I am freeeee :D

    •  

      thanks!

    • martha

      This totally solve my can’t install msn 2009 problem. Thanks so much!

    • shel

      got the same problem, message error(cant save) in resource hacker..

    • Roderick

      The resource hacker won’t work. I get to the compile script part then it won’t let me save it.

    • ju-ee

      *TO ALL WHO HAD PROBLEM SAVING THE SCRIPT*
      simple solution: make sure you had ur msn messenger program closed, right click and exit it from your tray icon. that should do it.

    • http://KHi KH

      thank you so much , for this help …..

    • Klabh

      It worked like a charm! I would hate to upgrade to the newer version of MSN which I’ve tried once.. Never again. Thanks!

    • debbie

      ive lost all my contacts on new version help

    • khatija

      I have the same problem as seana.. please help :(

    • jack

      I can’t see my contact list, how do I get it back? Someone please tell me. I’ll be very thankful.

    • lalala

      my contact list is also gone!!

      it still works for example @ meebo but not on my pc with msn 8.0 :(

      help pls !! !!!!!!!!!! :D

    • Ferhat

      Thank you soo much for this info mate

    • Stephanie

      Hey there. I followed your excellent instructions down to the last word, but I have a slight problem! When I try to save after changing the product version to 14.0.8064.0206, an error box crops up saying “Cannot rename original file. Saving Cancelled.”

      What do I do?! AHHHHH! Please email me! I would be very grateful for your expertise!

    • Daryl

      Thanks Ray.

      I’m using Messenger 8.1 and this hack has done the trick.

      I can’t believe how stupid Microsoft is to try to force people to upgrade to the latest piece of sh*t that doesn’t work.

    • Razor

      Thanks man i needed this the new messenger doesnt let u view ur contact by email :@:@
      I mean who’s the genious that came up with that idea…
      Thanks again man :D

    • http://hi. yoona

      can i ask you a question due to lastest msn version?

      why after i dl the new version all my contact list gone?

      and im trying to dl back the old version.using your way.

    • http://pleasehelp ash

      my computer already instal windows live messenger 9 but not open . one error messege. c”\programfiles\windowslive\messenger\messenger.exe”

      messege dnt open only this error messege . please help
      instal messenger9 arabic

    • Annas

      I’m not been able to see my contact list after performing these steps in windows xp now what should i do to get back my contact list!

    • SuGaR

      Ah, I can’t thank you enough :*

    • aktieprijs

      thanks, worked like a charm. Back to 8.1 for me. Does MSN Plus still work???

    • NG

      Worked with 8.0.0812 on 21 september 2009 on winXP.
      Contactlist and contactgroups intact.

      Many thanx!

    • leanne

      hi please help i used 2 have wlm 9 it worked fine 4 a few months and now it just logs me straight back out i have un installed it followed microsofts advice on solvin the issue and nothin helped i have had 2 down grade 2 messenger 8.5 is there a plus application 2 go wiv this if so could u please send me the link as every1 i have tried hasnt gone on2 my msn thank u x

    • leanne

      hi again i have just downgraded again 2 8.0 which copy of plus do i need 2 install thanx again x

    • babba

      You are simply genius…..thanks a lot….i hate live msn….not being able to log in for ages…..u saved me….cheers…..

    • Eye Rean

      Oh thanks, at last a solution, this wlm9 was getting on my nerves…!
      If you could also do sth about the iTunes-popping-up-every-30-sec problem when selected “show what i’m listening to” I would be pleased (:
      But you ‘re great whatsoever :P

    • http://www.BlaBla.com Ali

      Thanks Mr Raymond :)

    • hey

      Dude thanks….. I was really getting annoyed with an error message :):)

    • Donnie

      Thank you so much for the advice on that messenger problem. I looked all over for the right answers and yours was the best. Again Thank You.

    • http://Thanks! Roger

      For some reason, I went to install the newest version because it seemed to not let me sign in 50% of the time. And since I could find no specific uninstall program, I just cleared out the folders. Then it continued saying I still had it installed. After using the zapmessenger I found somewhere else, it installed but gave me a different looking version that would say I couldnt connect before it even checked my password. After much aggrivation I tried using Trillian, but lack of custom emoticons suck. (bitches love smiley faces). So I looked more and found this.

      At first the 8.000 hacked version thing let me sign on, but everyone appeared offline :|

      So I then tried the 8.5 and changed the version and viola! It works. Thanks a ton man and FUUUUUCKKK YOU MICROSOFT.

    • harj kang

      hey i cant save it like others have replied..and still not able to sign in after following all the steps numerous times…any suggestions? this is so stressful! i thought i had it lol help pls!

    • imad

      when i try your method that you mentioned
      then all my contact gone

      please help

    • ANdy

      THX BRO!

    • grannyslam

      Thank you!-works fantastically!!! Had tried EVERYTHING.

    • raiz

      Hey RAYMOND, Thank you very much for your post bro!! I was looking for this for a long period. Finally found it…

      HAVE FUN!!

    • rachel

      I used the Zap messesnger tool and downloaded the first link you showed us. (so not the hacking thing) It worked. – thankyou very much, i can sign in and no pop up comes forcing me to download the latest version. I hope this carries on, only question I wish to ask is.. now that I have the version 8.0 Can i update it to 8.5?
      My messenger didnt work since i downloaded 9.0 – ive tried EVERYTHING, went on their errors page, looked at every link. I had to click ‘run’ and enter cmd and enter all these long codes, lol but yeah i just wanted to ask will it be safe if i downloaded 8.5 now?
      thanks

    • Justin

      For those of you having problems saving under resource hacker I found a solution. If your using vista or xp make sure your logged in as an administrator. For vista you will need to right click on the reshacker application and go to “run as administrator”. Change the version number and compile the script and then it should save.

    • Mo

      Thanks Raymond.. you explained each step very well and it worked for me! Thanks ju-ee for the tip.. that was the problem for me haha!

    • ozzy

      youre great man thnx i can now use 8.5

    • Sum1

      If you don’t wish to be MSForced or MSBullied into the upgrade, then at the Messenger executable file (C:\program files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe) Right click > Compatibility > Compatibility with Windows 2000. This avoids the update. Works for me!

    • cswloo

      Thanks for this! I hate the new messenger after I accidentally installed it at work. Then my home pc today told me I ‘must update’ so I went in search of a solution and found this! The ResourceHacker worked perfectly for version 8.5 on XP.

    • Adrian

      Thanks mate! I hated it when upgraded to Windows Live Messenger 2009… quite lousy… I think mine (8.5) is better…

      Anyway Thanks again!

    • Donnalyn

      Hi, I’ve followed your instructions, using Messenger Deep clean but I keep getting prompted to upgrade to the latest Messenger! The ResourceHacker did work and saved properly, yet I’m still being promted to upgrade. Can anyone help me?

    • Keirnoth

      I’d like to add to the chorus of people who says THANK YOU for this nifty little trick. It worked beautifully on my version of Windows Live 8.5. As a couple users have stated, Microsoft had made it mandatory to upgrade to Windows Live 9 as of yesterday (November 4) and it drove me absolutely friggin insane. Thank you so much!

    • Brett

      I had tried the first option about a month ago and it worked fine up until today…for some reason it forced me to upgrade to windows live again.

      I zapped everything and tried the hack (option 2)…I installed version 8, went through all the necessary steps and it worked fine. I was able to login but the only thing is my contacts/setting are all missing.

      Am I missing something?

    • Brett

      I had the first option suggested above installed and working fine for about a month…than today it forced me to upgrade to WLM.

      I tried the hack option suggested above and everything installed and worked fine but for some reason all my contacts are missing.

      What did I do wrong?

    • http://www.tass.tv dslchome

      Thank you so so much.. I hate the new LIVE messenger.

      the older one is much more easy and is better. The new one is like YUCK.. thank you so much!

    • Apache

      Hey, for those who can’t save, try manually renaming the original msnmsgr.exe to something else (eg. msnmsgr_original.exe) then saving the modified script as msnmsgr.exe using Save As…
      It worked for me ;)

    • Apache

      Oh yea, by the way, I tried the above for both versions 8.0.0.0812 and 8.5. They both work.

    • martin

      Thanks for the tip! Searched half of my day the way to sneak pass that shit…mainly because installing WLM 9 to my pc had an error and tried to fix it all the ways….nothing worked. And now this little hack gave me a chance to sneak pass the download at all! Good! :)

    • Bob

      Thanks SO much! I’ve been looking on how to do this for ages.

      Just a heads up, this also works for windows live messenger 2008 build 8.5 , not just 8.0. At least it did here.

    • Your mum.

      Ughhh.
      I had this working in September, and today it suddenly stopped and started telling me I need to update again.
      I’ve tried both methods, neither have worked. I’ve also tried saving as and changing the compatibility etc and still no success.

    • Mohqmed

      Thqnx man for the hack, I m using 8.5 and yesterday it poped up to me that i have to upgrade, but ur trick worked jst fine, and am so gratful to u… thanx again…

    • heftycat

      You are the man… worked like a charm!! Now sharing folders can still exist with me and m’friends! Thanks, Dan.

    • http://bloodingsouls.tk Soviet!!!!!!

      Thanks You!!!!

      You Saved My Business!!!!!!!!

    • kool4kat

      Thanks it worked perfect,i was forced to update to version 9 and found webcams were running real slow or not at all,have gone back to 8.5 now thanks to your excellent instructions.

    • Ben

      First of all I wanna say Big ¨THANKS¨ to Raymond for taking his time to share his knowledge.For those people who tried the process and still didn´t get through just restart ur pc. then try using the ZapMessenger again and download MSN Messenger Live 8.5.1235 it should work

    • Brett

      No one has an ideas as to why my contact list would be missing or how to retrieve it?

    • Johnnyk

      Nothing Pisses me off more than someone forcing there will on me DAME You Microsoft

    • Edward

      That’s good, I can use it finally. Thanks so much.

    • stephen

      there is a way of getting msn 8.5 to work without having that stupid message telling you to upgrade to the newer version

    • stephen

      There is a work around for users that want to use 8.1
      1. Right click on the shortcut of MSN
      2. Select “Properties”
      3. Select “Compatibility” tab
      4. Check the Run “this program in compatibility mode for”
      5. Select “Windows 2000″
      6. Press “Apply” or “Ok”
      7. Done

    • army_deployed_CJJ

      <<<>>> RAY YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! I couldn’t believe it when the 8.5 actually logged me in! First time in Months!!! you are SO the man!@ The ZAP Messengr and 8.5 (no upgrade fix) are pure genius

    • Kaihwai

      Raymond’s instructions are clear !!
      However, it takes me half an hour to figure everything out..
      THANKS RAYMOND !!
      Upon this matter,i’ve registered myself as part of Raymond CC forum member. !

    • sweetJ

      hi Raymond! thanks for the help. I tried it and everything works perfectly well except one thing. After signed in, WLM always closes itself. And when i point my mouse in task bar msgr icon it closes as well. I dont know why this is not behaving. I tried everything like uninstalling then reinstall but still the same. Started the problem this week. This really pain in the ass. Hope you can help me.

      P.S. I send an email to microsoft support team but their ideas didn’t work :(

    • Jason

      Hi, i downloaded messenger 8.0 and installed it, i tryed to connect but it asked me to update, then i downloaded reshac and i did what u said to do but then when i tryed to connect it just popped me out don’t send message and closed my msn, any help for that ?

      Thank You

    • sander

      orrrrrrrrrr you could just set compatibility mode to windows 2000. LATER

    • joe

      Hi
      i was made to upgrade on friday an now i cant use webcam to see my friend..i hate this version …i ve done everything listed above an still doesnt work..im on xp like most….can u help?

    • Justin

      Instead of putting in the version number 14.0.8064.0206……use the newest release version number of 14.0.8089.0726

      It told me today that I needed to upgrade. I had a friend download resource hacker cuz he has the recent messenger and he told me his version number. Put the new number in and it works great.

    • Mike

      I used Reshack to change the product version to 14.0.8064.0206 but when i start WLM 8.5 and try to log in it still prompts me to upgrade…help!

    • user

      i tried and worked for first time but when I opened MSN it was the same and trick from the artickle didnt work + i lost all of my contacts. But thank you for helping other folks.

    • Mike

      Nevermind! For those of you who may be getting this problem…use RESHACKER to change the product version to the LATEST version which is..

      14.0.8089.726

      Cheers!

    • Moedot7

      If you are using 8.5 replace the original msnmsgr.exe with this one:

      http://kongshare.com/?d=IdXfFItpuW-msnmsgr.rar

      Or use the updated version which is now:
      14.0.8089.726

    • user

      founded way to retreive lost contacts, just install offering version and all of your contacts should be back.

    • ozzy

      an other problem occured it makes an other exe file called msnmsngr_original and when you compile it it makes one more cant log in now

    • Apache

      If it prompts you to update again after you got it working, try changing the version number again to the LATEST version

    • Aaron

      This worked for me a couple days ago, but version seems to have changed. Tried the version number in comment 115 also, unsuccessfully.

    • sebast

      awesome! thanks :D

    • dc

      It didn’t work for me. I tried everything like it said above and even the older version asks to upgrade.

      IT SUCKS!!!!

      I hate this f**ing Microsoft. When will they learn their lesson? Why forcing their f*cking sh*t on people. Have no choice but to upgrade to a new version… :(

    • http://www.raymond.cc/ Raymond

      I’ve updated the article’s build number so you can modify your old MSN Messenger to make the Live servers think that you are using the latest build.

    • Keirnoth

      What the heck.

      Microsoft upped the version requirement AGAIN. Good sir Raymond updated the article to fix it everyone. His article previously said 14.0.8064.0206, but now instead of using that number you have to use version number for the latest version of MSN Messenger: 14.0.8089.0726

    • Your mum.

      Thanks, Raymond.
      I’ll give this a shot, and hope it works.

    • Andy

      hi, even if I did as eplained I still have trouble to sign in.
      the message is asking me to upgrade to newest version……….

      con you please help me?
      thanks

    • Andy

      well I delete and recompiled the file and now it works

    • dc

      Wow, thanks man, it worked! This is definitely a link to put into my bookmarks… Only if people like you worked at Microsoft :)

    • Pete

      This did work great for a while but yesterday it stopped working and I get the old ‘a nwer version is available’ window.

      any ideas?

    • Andy Lo

      Pete, it happened to me also.
      What I did was:

      1. Repeat the steps n revert the value back to 8.xxxx.
      Compile n save.

      2. Run MSN, and of course it won’t load because of th update.

      3. Close MSN.

      4. Edit the value 8.xxx u used earlier to 14.xxx.

      Works.

    • Aziz

      Hey guys, Hey Pete

      If it worked for some time with you and stopped working again, go to comment NO. 111 which says:

      All you have to do is:
      1- Open ResHack as Administrator again.
      2- Change the number again to 14.0.8089.0726 instead of 14.0.8064.0206
      and that’s it!

      Good Luck everyone!

    • Zsoltisan

      Hey Everyone!

      I did again the version number hacking, because with this version ’14.0.8064.0206′ worked only 1 day. Now with the new version number working the wlm, but I hope not for a day again. If so, then what should I doing? Change every day the version number?? It’s not so good solution…

    • Cedric

      Thanks for everything. But i can still not save after compiling the script. And where do i need to right-click if i want to open it as an administrator. Thanks.

    • Nikki

      Hi ive installed wlm 8.5
      and i had to use ResHacker to be able to log in
      and it worked for like 2-3 days
      now that prompt is back..that i “need the latest version etc”
      what do i do?
      i tried installing 8.0 and use ResHack it worked before but not anymore :(
      plz help

    • Aziz

      hey guys,

      Zsoltisan, don’t worry, you won’t have to change it until they release a new version and it can’t be tomorrow.

      Cedric, you have to right-click on the file “ResHacker.exe” and choose “Run as administrator” then click “Allow” when asked. That’s it and you’ll be able to save after compiling. Good luck!

      Nikki, read my previous comment or read comment number 111. you’ll have to use ResHacker again to because there is a new version number.

    • dc

      I don’t know. The fix with a new version number (comment #122 & the updated article) worked for me. What I’ve done is this:

      1. Remove old messenger with the ZapMessenger (the link above didn’t work for me so I had to Google it)

      ZapMessenger also kept all my contacts in despite of some comments above.

      2. Download the old version of MSN messenger (8.0.0.0812) from the link in the article above & install it.

      3. Then use the ResHacker to change the version number to whatever it says in the article above (I believe Raymond updates it regularly — thanks for doing that, btw)

      If running ResHacker on Vista/Win7 right-click it’s icon (instead of double-clicking) and select run as administrator, then confirm it. In this case you won’t have a problem while compiling and saving.

      4. I would also disable Windows updates, since that’s how you get your current messenger “updated” back to the version that Microsoft wants you to have. (Or at least set it to “Check updates and notify me before installing”, don’t leave it on automatic.

      Many people criticize me for disabling Windows updates, but I ask them this question. How many times did Windows updates fix things for you? And, also, how many times did Windows updates mess things up? That should tell you what to do :)

    • Josh P

      How do I get a copy of the old windows live mail? New Windows Live just kills my computer whenever I install it (Windows XP).

      Thanks for the great workaround by the way.

    • Billy

      It Works! It wOrKsSSsss!! hahaha, thank u so much bro!

    • spark

      hi i followed raymond advice n installed again widows live older version 8.5 from above given link n it was working till yesterday when i again started getting message to upgrade 2 newer version now wat should i do?? please help……….is msn new version working finely or still those bugs there please helpppp

    • spark

      hey i just changed the msn version from 8.5 to the latest 1 through reshack n its working thanx Raymond……….

    • raindrop0

      hi there guyss i did it after 3 hours, for those who couldnt save it delete the dots for example it says “.14.0.8089.0726.” delete the first dot and the last dot so its
      “14.08989,076″ only and it will save it for u
      use msn 8.0 it works well, ive just dont it and it worked yuppppyyyyyyyy am soo happy cuz i did not give you ive been trying for almost 3 hours cuz i hated the new msn soo much i wanted this to work and it did, anyone who needs anyhelp just drop me a line
      good luck guys, cuz i now can see my love on cam better than that new msn version i hated soo much

    • morphiouse

      Thanks Dude,that pop up box dogged me for weeks, i wrote to five different advisors on live.They all acted as if they didn’t understand my problem. on the new 2009 version there is no link to the shareing folders. so i lost 15 GB of files shared between my friends addresses and they can offer no explanation or fix. live shareing folders in messenger have nothing to do with your shared folders in mycomputer before anyone jumps on that question.after about 9 replies i gave up asking for help. Live simply are not that stupid that they were unaware. However install the old and Ureka they are still there as long as you havent defragged or restored etc.

    • morphiouse

      For those that were unaware, Shareing folders was a single folder shared between your adress and one other , such as your best buddy. Either of you could put anything in it whilst signed in on your PC or take it out. No one else could see or touch anything in it. I had over twenty such folders with over twenty different buddies.They were the best and easiest way of giving a file to someone you know, even small film clips. the folders were not online they were in your Pc and the same folder was in your buddies. Everybody got that. Thankx live for destroying all my files without even a warning.

    • Heather

      OMG!!…Thank you very much!…I know nothing about computers and although it took me a while, I was able to follow your instructions and got MSN back and didn’t lose a thing…Thanks SOOOOOO much!!

    • Michael

      Hey thanks for the update! This also works with Version 8.1.178.0!! (which I am running) I did not want to update, this worked out perfectly! Much appreciated!

    • jennifer

      i hate the new way like the old way better so bring it back.

    • http://ihatethisone jennifer

      i hate the new way i like the old way better so bring it back.

    • kenn

      thanks a lot Raymond, resourcehacker worked, i hope you find the solution for msn 9 installation, you saved us from antics of Microsoft

    • Anon

      Post 104 worked for me.All the others failed.Thanks Stephen, I hated not seeing contact email addresses.

    • dominic

      i done all of the above… it still dont work, still says i have to upgrade when i try and sign in… help

    • Steph

      idiots u cant save because you have to CLOSE WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER BEFORE TRYING TO USE RESOURCEHACKER

    • Madelon

      i can’t save it in reshack :| damn

    • Hadriel

      hell yeah m8 youre the best!

    • Tomas

      I tried the 8.0 version. I managed to sign in, but I couldn’t make my contacts appear online.

      I tried the 8.5 version, but as soon as I signed in, the program crashed. It does that every time.

      I’m thinking about getting version 9 again. The only thing I’m after is to be able to display my contacts by e-mail address instead of nickname. And sometimes when 9 is installed, it displays the e-mail addresses. But as soon as you do something “wrong”, it starts displaying nicknames again and there’s no turning back. However, my friend has managed to maintain e-mail display for several months…

    • Supertramp

      Raymond, thanks so much for this one! I’m really happy that I can use WLM8.5 again for now. I just wonder how comes this thread started already in march… Here in Switzerland we were forced to upgrade to WLM2009 now in November – but seems you guys had to do that already a half year ago… As ppl above are complaining, same happen to me: Cam didn’t work anymore properly when starting a Video conversation (mostly MSN crash) – only way to handle it, was to let the other send cam first, then send mine… Also extremly annoying the mirrored webcam… However, back on track now with the good “old” 8.5.130.1018 – Best regards!

    • bryan

      hi, ive successfully go thru what raymond noted up there.. but one thing that doesnt work dat well is my contact list…. its all gone… can any1 help em with tat???

    • http://Thanksalot! Joe.A

      i followed all steps and got the save message. noticed alot of people where having it. i red threw the other comments, and notice someone said to close the wlm first. pretty idiotic to think it would modify the file when ts actually running lol. Everything works fine, just make sure when trying to cave the changes you close wlm first :) thanks alot LIFE SAVER <3

    • msn

      today microvomit wanted to force me to stop using my copy of MSN 8.5, which I thoroughly patched using apatch.org to remove all the aggravating stuff; stuff like ads, vomit live integration, repeated and unauthorized contact info requests, and basically any other message that microvomit might want to compulsorily convey to me. I solved the issue thanks to this post.

      btw, I’m using aMSN on Ubuntu most of the time now. it’s been a long long time since I last installed any new M$ vomity software; I am hoping that I never need to ever again.

    • raul

      reg add “HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers” /v “C:\\Program Files\\MSN Messenger\\msnmsgr.exe” /t REG_SZ /d “WIN2000″ /f

      Viva Guatemala !!!

    • janton

      Using Windows Xp First Version…Cannot Upgrade to WLM9 due to OS compatibily. Take a chance to AMSN but WLM8 is better. Thanks to Raymond hack I’m still happy with my old OS and my old WLM8…So Thank you very much!!!!

    • http://windowslivemessengerstoppedworkingafterupdate Atilla Karaca

      I had the same problem the day before, my windows live messenger crashes after signing in. I searched for the dozens of
      forums and I applied the instructions, unfortunately none of them worked. I tried zapmessenger, deep cleaner, I uninstalled
      and reinstalled it dozens of times, hopeless.. I tried registry cleaners, antivirus scanning, antimalware programs, I
      installed MSN 8.1 by changing its version to the latest MSN 9 with resourcehacker ( it worked in a friend’s situation) didn’t
      work too. I read in one of the forums that Acer notebooks have incompatibility with messenger and crash, so I installed Acer
      MSN patch, as you can guess it didn’t work as in nightmares. I did uninstallation by revo uninstaller, nope… I also read
      that Adobe flash player has incompatibility with MSN 9 I upgraded it to the latest version, useless…At last I created a new
      computer user session in control panel and I switched on new session, surprizingly it worked. I didn’t stop fixing the
      problem. I understood that it was neither a driver incompatibility nor a virus problem. I was suspected of registry problem
      with my session.
      Here is my solution: I scanned my system with System Cleaner 5 at first, then I opened system control then startup manager I
      unchecked Adobe’s ( also its dlls) entries and others that I was suspected of. I am proudly saying that It worked (: I am
      using MSN 9 now. I hope I am helpful, enjoy!

    • Hatem Gohar

      I love u man… you have solved my problem.
      Thank you very much.. ur teh one :D

    • Pete

      Worked right out of the box! My humble thanks to you after my week attempts at loading 9! A long search for a solution ended here. !

      Zapmessenger worked smooth and ResHacker was easy to use and did the job. Wonderful!

    • Arifeen

      Thank you so much buddy…u rock!! :)

    • http://shireeen.wordpress.com shireen

      I tried about 4-5 different methods to get the old messenger to work till I came across the ResHack. Thanks for the help :)

    • http://noizy rinor

      une dua ta instaloj msn 8.5

    • Flori

      Thnx body , it worked for me , with resour ResHack :)

    • shorty

      thnx a lot man u saved me =D

    • Alice

      I want my old version back but i don’t know how to do it

    • snax

      Thanks Raymond this works a treat! Bloody Microsoft! I’ll upgrade when I want to thanks very much :D

    • http://help.org Skendzi

      why people are spent time with MS products. USE OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE IS THE FUTURE. SO CHOOSE IT from now!!! no problems. 100% free 100% opensource.
      aniway great job. i’ve did it in 2007 with msn 7.5 LOL!

    • steveb007

      Hi guys…just a really big thank u to Raymond for a great site..and particularly STEVE on post 104..my compatabilty tabs were missing and its taken me 4 hours to figure out how to run 8.1 via windows 2000…but it looks like it works..if your tabs are gone when you right click the .exe file (thanks VISTA) you need to run the compatability wizard in vista and that will do it for you….my cam not working has been driving me nuts…thanks again guys for pointing me in the right direction.

    • wengyee

      i did all the steps but at last it doesn’t work.

      A newer version is available.you must install the newer version in order to continue.would you like to do this now?

      im going mad with this.
      someone help me please ! :(

    • Sylaryn

      Hi. I have version 8.1 installed and patched exactly how i like it using A-Patch. I havent been able to use Messenger for months now (and havent really had the time to bother to deal with it). I did NOT want to upgrade!!

      I just tried out your Reshacker solution and presto, it worked immediately. Thanks for an awesome and simple solution!!

      BTW, for anyone using Vista, run Reshack as Administrator – otherwise it has trouble saving.

    • tigers_reverie

      Hi, I tried what you said to do, step by step, and it still doesn’t work for me!! A message still comes up saying “a newer version is available”. PLEASE help me, I have tried everything to fix this problem and NOTHING WORKS!! :(:(

    • roudy

      i have a problem when i tried to download any version from msn i could’nt install it as i had a massage ” you can’t install untill you log on as administrator” so if there’s any way or steps to install without logging on as an administrator plz answeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

    • Tomas

      I gave up trying to use any old MSN version. I succumbed to the newest one.

      BUT… Now I can’t do sh*t without MSN crashing. I can’t change display picture, can’t click links, can’t send or receive files… if I do any of the above, MSN crashes and disappears from the interface within one millisecond.

    • http://www.haritalar.web.tr Ugur Akgoz

      i also prefer the older styles of MSN.
      thanks for the hints.

    • DanielRemains

      Here’s a fix I found on the net, and I posted it on my forum. Here it goes (Copy-pasted from my forum) :

      Hey people!

      Some of you like to keep using the good old stuff, and I needed this patch for WLM 8.5 on an older machine. This XP installation was, for some reasons, not able to install the latest WLM 14.X. Normally Windows Live Messenger 8.5 stops working, asking you to upgrade to the latest one. When you click ‘No’, well WLM 8.5 closes itself. Good way from Microsoft to force people to upgrade.

      This WLM 8.5 fix will allow you to keep using WLM 8.5 forever without being prompted to upgrade!

      How is this possible?

      Well in this download there is WLMFIX.exe, which is a WinRAR SFX file. Into that file, there is msnmsg.exe and fix.bat.

      fix.bat will simply replace the original msnmsg.exe with the patched one.

      Enjoy!!

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/657816/Programs/WLM8.5_fix.exe

      This has been a life safer to me I hope you guys enjoy it. :)

    • kimo4u

      thank you for all my friends

    • waqar

      hey thnxs raymond
      i have patched it any now using msn 8 but the problem in messanger doesnt show any of my contact why tht soo??

    • aminah

      please do something my contact list disappears.

    • THX!!!!!!!

      THX RAYMOND……!!!!i LOVE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!haha just joke…THX UR HINT IS WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ivar

      Messenger Plus! isn’t working. Anyone know anything about that?

    • weee

      hey….how to get back my contact list…??

    • Cruz

      thanks works, got an older version back and now i hope webcam works again

    • http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/03/27/download-and-use-older-version-of-windows-live-messenger-or-msn-messenger/ veton

      thank you a lot of
      its the best

    • dr imran khan

      THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      I was at my wits end trying to log in to WLM09…..tried all possible remedies for error 80040154…..
      finally i am able to install msn08 and log in thanks to the crack…
      BIG Thanks……. :)

    • joel

      hey raymond i tried saving after changing the version but it said file cannot be renamed.saving canceled. what should i do?
      thanks

    • Keirnoth

      @joel

      Save as to your desktop. Go to C:\Program Files\Windows Live, rename the original msnmsgr.exe to something else, move the one on the desktop to that folder.

    • me238

      thanks dude, ur the best! u bring my life happy again! and for those wo cannot save the file.. the solution is U GUYS MUST CLOSE THE WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER FIRST.. THEN U CAN SAVE :)

    • T.A.

      For all those who get the Cannot save original file. Just make sure that all messenger applications are closed. just press Ctrl + Alt + Delete and look it up.

    • rosered

      OMG, what a brilliant get around! Thanks guys. Downloaded v 8.5 and then did the reshack thing and its all good now. I have spent about 6 hours over the space of 3 days working thru a load of suggestions from Microsoft support none of which worked. They have elevated my complaint about choppy voice on WLM 2009 but heard nothing back from them for weeks now. (The v8.0 didn;t work and I thought I had lost my contact list but when I installed v8.5 it was all there again) Thank you!!!!!

    • tycho

      Well i did the same thing and it worked a month ago
      now i tried it on windows 7 x64 os and it wont log in. it says: you cannot use windows live. Messenger at this time because your contact list is not available. Please try again later

      error code 81000378

      i allready did the reg add stuf
      no firewalls or anti vir things
      MSN 9 does log in
      does someone have an idea ?

    • Saad

      EXcellent solution, buddy! The Reshack thing did the trick! Now, I can go back (Happily) to Messenger 8.5 .

    • Michael

      Here are some Windows Live Messenger old versions with changelog. Choose the old version that fits your needs better. http://www.downloadoldversion.com/windows-live-messenger.html

      Hf

    • Chan

      Thank you so much. you don’t know how much i appreciate it. Thank you, thank you!

    • mmaria

      i did everything like u said, but after clicking the compile script button and trying to save, i get an error saying i cannot name original file, saving cancelled. WHAT TO DO ?

    • mmaria

      okay , got it . I LOVE U FOR THIS ! (L)

    • Kendro

      y my contact list lost???

      any solution for fix tis problem???

      pls!!!

      but…ray…ur solution way are good!!! but y it jvt can funtional for few day only???

    • Sean

      hopefully this will work, im trying the 1st download 1st, my laptops quite old so the latest version doesnt install anyway :D hope this works! thanks ray! :P

    • Kendro

      hey thank!!!

      but i wanna to noe…y my contact list is gone?? n anyone hv way can solve it ???

      n ray…y the msn only fuctional for few time only??? any solution for it??

    • stephanie

      hi raymond. i have windows 7… and reshacker isnt having any of it. any suggestions? i look forward to hearing from you.

    • maree

      thanks so much this worked for me as i was having trouble with the new msn

    • Emil

      Thank you, Raymond, your reghack hack helped me!
      Btw I had an installer of 14.0.8064.0206 version and it still “forced” me to update, however I found a better solution :)

      Thanks

    • http://www.raymond.cc/ Raymond

      The latest version is 14.0.8089.0726. That’s why you’re being forced to update.

    • http://LaststepPlzhelp Harasi

      Thanks Raymond .. but the last step it says can not save .. what should I do

    • Khadijah

      When I did this, I lost all my contacts. Then I added everyone ALL over AGAIN. But now it won’t even show me if they’e online or offline. People can MSG me but I can’t MSG them. And if they talk to me, it says this person is not on your contact list and if I add them, it says I already have that person. PLEASE HELP!

    • Gownaar

      To use wlm 8.1/8.5, google “wlm no update patch”. It’s basically an automated version of ResHacker method. Tried to post a link here but it was removed, probably because of anonymous hosting. Anyway, it’s hosted on Softpedia now.

    • Tomas

      Khadijah and others: No one is ever going to tell you how to get your contact list back. It is a question shrouded in mystery forever. You might as well let it go.

    • R.Abbas

      Raymond you rock , you are the man , i did the trick as per your instructions and it works like ” A sharp knife in butter ” smoooooth . contct list intact , no problems , web cam works . i did it on WLM 8.1 on winxpsp2
      any one who wants to keep his contact list safe before excute the trick must save the contact list first then if he lost it later can import it again.
      i tried to do the older trick and changed the compatibility to win2000 and it worked but the cam did not work , so i revert back to ” no compatibility ” then the WLM installed itself again with my contact list intact then i applied your trick and now everything is more than fine thank you Raymond

    • Noah

      ummm, go to hotmail.com, at the top right corner of page, you can sign on to msn messenger (web) and it’s pretty much the same thing.

    • shery

      thank u soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much…?

    • RachelAn

      My contact list is gone, O_o am cofused
      any solution for fixing this problem???

    • Corey

      It won’t let me save it!!!Help please

    • safal

      absolutely fantastic….thank u so much………………

    • Aaron

      Guys, there’s still 1 burning question that has been raised a few times here, that no one has bothered to attempt to answer… This works fine Ray, however for me, and from what ive read (and which has been ignored) is that MSN, opens, and then after a few seconds, it closes itself. The Icon in the task bar disappears too. Whats going on there, I can get all the old versions to work perfectly fine; well to login, but once loaded, it closes.

      Any suggestions?

    • Mickey

      Thanks Ray. I’ve been really fed up with this new MSN, so having an old version work is a real blessing.

      For people who are having trouble…Run Reshack as an admin (if you’re using Vista). Also, I had to use the second program in order to remove all MSN crap. After that and after following the instructions from here, everything worked.

      Aaron, try doing the same thing and see if it works. Good luck :)

    • Mouse

      Thank you guys, I really got crazy coz i couldn’t sign in and suffered mcuh before founding tht website. But I tried it before with Vista but it didn’t work, now it worked fine with XP. thank you!!

    • Dragevo

      Thanks for great help, I had to install the 8.5 instead of the 8.0 to make it work though. My first hack too, ever – awesome. : )

    • Lazio

      Thank you all of you for ur help, but I still have a problem. After I followed all the steps and the msn opened but I can’t see my contacts. No contact appears and seems as if I just created account but in webmessenger I can see them. Could u help please? Thank you so much.

    • Tim

      Just one word…finally………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    • Imad

      This Hack Not Working Now

    • jonjon

      yuppii it’s working erkan thx :)

    • Gownaar

      It’s working, only the numbers have changed. New version = 14.0.8117.0416

    • joker

      guys new version = 999.999.999.99
      it’s lifelong
      I’ve tried and i’m using now..
      itS working

    • jouna

      hello;
      my msn just send video call not give me choice to send web cam or video call i change my msn and the same problem .
      by the way when i open my email from different computer he give my choices
      what can i do ?
      please i need to solve this problem

    • http://. Edward

      I cannot use it! I cannot find my contacts back! Anyone can help me?

    • Melissa Hayes

      I just wanted to thank you. So far it’s working great. I did have the saving problem but as soon as I exited the messenger out it saved right away. So, thank you again I had given up on using messenger but now you have bought it back to me.

    • entiopia

      That really worked. Thanks

    • ArianniTT

      Thnx So Much , I always need this kind of webs,to learn things..

    • http://WindowsInstallerPopsUpWhenTryingtoOpenMessenger Pam

      Hi,
      I did the version switch, and successfully used 8.0 but now a newer version of Messenger came out while I was out of town. My husband tried to “upgrade” and the installer came up. I told him don’t “upgrade”! When I got home, I put in the version of the latest Messenger which was 15.3.2649.311, but when I try to open Messenger, the Windows Installer comes up and gives me all sorts of messages, which I have to ignore, and then I am finally able to open Messenger 8.0. IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THE WINDOWS INSTALLER TO QUIT POPPING UP??? Thanks!

    • User

      OK! …..webcam not fuction,not compatible

    • bella

      thank you so much! this worked perfectly. i firstly downloaded the 8.0 version which worked, but did not show my contact list. So i then downloaded the 8.5 version which works perfectly and shows my contacts :)

    • http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman Dario Western

      Eureka! I’ve got it! For all those who are stressing out over the loss of their contacts on 8.0 messenger, never fear, here’s what you can do:

      Go to http://www.oldversion.com and upgrade to Windows Live Messenger 8.1 – download it and run it on your system. Your contacts list will display on this one! :-)

    • David

      Thanks I tried it and its working so now I click on that person’s cam and my own without that annoying video call coming up!

    • Mike B

      “everything is ok but at last step it does not let me to “save” it. everytime it tried i was met an error like this “Cannot rename original file. Saving cancelled”.

      after that i tried to save as msnmsg2.exe and replace it the original file. after cleaning original file, i deleted it and tried to run msn with new file. doesnt work ”

      This is also my problem, email me help please! :(

    • Dimi

      Wow… I didn’t do the save, I was afraid to download the hack part… But… installing the 8.0 version and then upgrading holly shit it brought me to the previous version that Does have separate webcam sharing. It’s so glitchy in the latest platform. Supported Only videocall and me and my bud had serious issues with that part. Now I can surprize him tomorrow :D Thank you so Much. Wish I had money to give you :)

    • steve

      man when i save the changed files in “Resource Hacker” i get a message told me “cannot reaname ooriginal file. saving cancelled ” what should i do plz contact me . i have window 7

    • SleepingInsomniac

      Hey, I’m having the same problem as the other dudes, I can’t save. Please help meee. I really need this.

    • exari

      guys, you have to close messenger first so you can save.

    • tka

      I got the same problem with steve too, i have window 7 and i cannot save it! plz help!

    • paul

      before using zap messenger i went to search, all files and folders, typed in windows live messenger and then deleted everything it found. better safe than sorry. anyhow i then clicked on the here and voila, ive got 8.5 and all the contacts are there. also, before i downloaded 8.5 i went to add and remove prog and on the left side under add remove windows components i unticked the windows messenger box. after i reinstalled 8.5 i put it back.now all i have to do is get my contacts to do the same and we can cam again, i hope. thanx a jillion

    • TIJUANA KING

      IT WORKS U THE BEST NOW I CAN DO JUST CAM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO VIDEO CALL YOU ROCK THANKS

    • Craig

      This guide worked perfect. I was dubious as it involved editing an exe but it worked. Thank you author and I’d recommend it to those that need to use it.

    • http://thankyou KC

      Thank you so much!!!!

    • Greg

      Raymond you should put a warning at the top of the website that this method can cause some people’s contact lists to disappear. Or you could address the problem…

    • Carly

      the reshack thingy worked like charm for me, thanks you’re god i love u lol =)

    • noplCW

      this didnt help the same problem is accuring and i cant enter the msn

    • http://dijam dijam

      i’m majid i just wat to say thanks
      and u can change msn old version 8 msn by msn 7.5
      and u cant have problem with cam and u can chose what you want
      majid.axp@hotmail.com
      i had old version msn 7.5 is better

    • Wendalie

      I’ve tried it with 8.0 — > empty list. ( Now gonna try to download the newest one, save my list. Get on 8.0 and add the list.. and see if it works than )

      I’ve tried it with 8.5 — > Kept saying the update stuff.

      Than someone on this said, do the update and it works, didn’t work for me either.

      fml.

      Maybe I just have to sacrifice my one way camming.

    • gdzt

      YOU ARE THE MOST AMAZING PERSON IN THE WORLD, MAN I CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH I LOOKED EVERYWHERE ONLINE THEY ARE ALL USELESS, I CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH RAYMOND.

    • Eric

      Problem here: I can’t save the file in the “Recourse Hacker” program.

    • Eric

      Yes!! It works, Thanks mate

      PS: Exari, July 27 wrote: guys, you have to close messenger first so you can save.

      Thanks to that comment I didn’t give up..Such a simple thing to forget, now it works.

    • Harry

      Whoever made this tutorial – thanks a lot.

    • john

      i lost all my contacts but thats a small price to pay as they can re add me easily enough, whoever made this thank you so much, i have very basic knowledge but you made it very easy to follow

    • karem fathy EGYPT

      it works as well with
      “Windows Live Messenger 2011 15.4.3502.0922″
      just do the same ((((( Look for the line VALUE “ProductVersion”, “8.0.0812″ and change the 8.0.0812 to 15.4.3502.0922 )))))

    • Awais Usman

      Thanks a lot. I running like ferrariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

    • Alex

      cheers mate~

    • Tatch

      can someone help me? please?
      i did everything right, went smoothly till i got to the point where i safe the file it says “cannot rename original file. saving canceled”…. why? T-T

    • fred

      To karem fathy EGYPT.

      That version you said to download already has that ProductVersion listed.

      Can someone give out real instructions please.

    • http://KAP itsKAPbaby

      i am running Windows 7 64 bit and I have exited messenger and followed the instructions and I still get “cannot rename original file. saving cancelled”. Is there a process running in background or what the hell????

    • Prinsu-kun

      Guys if you unable to save in Resources Hacker, make sure you use “Run this Program In Administration”
      ;)

    • Filipe Monteiro

      A few weeks back, video-call stopped working, so I had to install the new one. I’m guessing it’s due to the usage of new codecs for the video conferencing system.

      Can I get a hand? Or a link to the install of the 2010 version?

      Thanks much

    • Jazon

      Good job it works, but how to restore the missing contact??

      Can you help me Thanks

    • serkan

      thanks so much

    • stevie

      nedd to get old msn reastored back on to the computer

    • liki

      yeah, it worked well,
      except that it wont show me any of contacts..

      eventho i re-added them, still their appears offline…
      and off course i cant do anything, not even a chat..

      anyone experiencing the same prob??

      thanks~

    • http://Andri ralwarez

      I have done it all. Multiple times. Just… version 8.0 keeps signing … keeps signing… keeps signing…. and does not ever open the messenger.

    • LilP

      Yea ralwarez I have the exact same problem, now i cant even use the latest version cos its says im missing a bunch of files that have no name just a bunch of stupid charaters, now im in more shit with this thing than i was beforfe i uninstalled the latest version, great, now i really am screwed. if anyone gets around this please tell me, if tried everything i can think of, un and re-installing over and over, system restore and even re-installing windows itself!

    • Martin

      I have a feeling it’s not working out this time, maybe after they made Windows Live Messenger 2011…
      Mine doesn’t sign in neither.

      Raymond, care to comment?

    • Andy

      Ive done everything from start to finish, however, when i load msn the wee men just keep spinning, it doesnt log me in!? Any ideas?!

      Plllllllease help!!! :(

    • Sara

      Can’t thank you enough, you are a bloody genius :)))))

    • liz

      Thanks so much!

      It worked for me the second time I tried it. The first time, I had MSN running in the task bar, not signed in but still on (If I clicked on the task bar icon, it would go to the login page). After I installed MSN version 8.5, I had turned it on to sign in, before running Resource Hacker, just to see if it would work. It didn’t but it did cause MSN to stay turned on in my taskbar which I think was the problem.

      I would add the comments from previous users Exari and Eric to your instructions. BASICALLY, MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT HAVE MSN RUNNING IN YOUR TASK BAR BEFORE YOU SAVE IN RESOURCE HACKER. When I first tried running Resource Hacker I was able to save but it didn’t work. Closing MSN in the taskbar and clicking “save” in Resource Hacker again did the trick.

      Perhaps you need to try that Ralwarez…

    • Raka

      How do I not upgrade to windows 11 ?? please reply..I cant use any of the versions as it says i must upgrade to live messenger 11 !!!

    • AmandaB

      this previously worked for me but today i just got that you must update to the newest version to continue… So it just stopped working outta nowhere. HELP!

    • Dman

      Just copy and paste this code from now on:

      1 VERSIONINFO
      FILEVERSION 15,4,3508,1109
      PRODUCTVERSION 15,4,3508,1109
      FILEOS 0×4
      FILETYPE 0×1
      {
      BLOCK “StringFileInfo”
      {
      BLOCK “040904B0″
      {
      VALUE “CompanyName”, “Microsoft Corporation”
      VALUE “FileDescription”, “Windows Live Messenger”
      VALUE “FileVersion”, “15.4.3508.1109″
      VALUE “InternalName”, “msnmsgr.exe”
      VALUE “LegalCopyright”, “Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.”
      VALUE “OriginalFilename”, “msnmsgr.exe”
      VALUE “ProductName”, “Messenger”
      VALUE “ProductVersion”, “15.4.3508.1109″
      }
      }

      BLOCK “VarFileInfo”
      {
      VALUE “Translation”, 0×0409 0x04B0
      }
      }

    • Anon

      Just change value to 15.4.3502.0922, its from wlm 2011

    • Naji

      it worked for messnger 2009 but messnger plus is not showing!!!

    • Juha

      @Raka

      14.0.8089.0726 is not the latest anymore. At the moment the latest one is 15.4.3508.1109

      Ray, maybe you should make a litte update for this instruction :)

    • Crazy Pete

      Raymond, just to let you know that you are amazing, man!
      NO OTHER blog came even close to solving that prob.
      BTW, it works also to stop the MANDATORY installation of the new version of MSN 2010/11…you just need to replace the version number with this one: 15.4.3502.0922
      i had my first lesson in script compiling and it went great!
      i also must had that you use such an easy to understand language that maybe you should consider giving classes!
      All the best!

    • byanyothername

      THANK YOU!! Worked a treat, just replaced version number with 15.4.3502.0922. Thank you again, very helpful with clear, easy to follow, instructions.

    • sharon

      danload msn

    • JimH

      How do you change the version number?

    • msn8.5

      Did anyone get this work with cam using 8.5 msn with “ProductVersion”, “15.4.3508.1109″??

      it seem like the cam not working.. only work for sending files.

    • Ryan

      I recently installed MSN Messenger 8.0, from here

      http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/03/27/download-and-use-older-version-of-windows-live-messenger-or-msn-messenger/comment-page-12/

      I tried ZapMessenger and DeepCleaner, and neither of these programs found anything that could be removed.

      I also tried the Resource Hacker thing, but it didn’t work either.

      And I’m not even able to install WLM 8.5 and the version before the 2011 version…

      It’s annoying since this program is a simple and fast way to go online instead of using eBuddy all the time.

      Fortunately I’m not in a big need of the program but I still wanna be able to install it whether I’ll be using it or not.

      Any suggestions? Otherwise I’ll have to stick to eBuddy or maybe check out Yahoo Messenger.

      Greetings

    • Davo

      Hey Guys.
      This WORKS !!!
      also for the LATEST version.

      IF the “Just copy and paste this code from now on” from Dman doesn’t work ? !

      ===> just change the FILEVERSION and PRODUCTVERSION to ===> 15.4.3508.1109

      Now enjoy the old fashion wlm.

      Thank You For This WoNdErFuLL info.

      Greetz D

    • Anders Lindh

      thank you worked perfectly, I runned 2009 and was prompted to install 2011 wich failed and this blocked the logon to 2009…….. smart design MS,,,,,,
      nice solution !!!!!!}:))))

    • mh

      thanksss this worked for the new 2011 versionn, but I can’t get windows plus live to work..

      does someone know how to get that to work?

      thanks

    • batoul

      how do i get messenger plus live to work with this thing?

      other than that THANKSSS i got the show my webcam option backkk :) and i didnt have to do the manditory upgrade to the 2011 version

    • cementos

      when i press save, i keep getting the following message: Cannot rename original file. Saving cancelled.
      if anyone can tell me what to do to get it working. i tried to set compatibility to windows2000. msn works but my camera wont work. please guys tell me what to do..

    • kkk

      It doesn’t work anymore. :(

    • kirsty

      I have tried all this and it’s not working for me :(

      I get this message every time I try to compile

      Compiler Error in line 4 at offset 18
      Invalid statement: integer expected

      Its driving me insane
      Please help me

    • Soraya

      hi, whenever I try to save the file in Resource Hacker it says: cannot rename original file, saving cancelled. What do I need to do?

    • Michael

      nice job….very nice.

    • to soraya

      @soraya, you need to right click on the reshack.exe and click run as administrator, then save it. it should save successfully.

      Cheers

    • bomber2011

      it works , but do you get the webcam feature to work??

    • Bob

      I’m having the issue were it just keeps signing in and never does. What’s the solution this problem?

    • http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/03/27/download-and-use-older-version-of-windows-live-messenger-or-msn-messenger/ karrar

      thx man nic work (Y) and what (to soraya) said are correct 100% thx man too

    • saikat

      i have done all things step by step but did not get the result well..the same problem occurred during the time of sign in in live messenger…microsoft again forced me to update it…plz help me..

    • Fernando

      just like Davo above change version to 15.4.3508.1109 and it will work as of today (jan/27)

    • shmergo

      I’m also not able to make any video or audio calls. Any suggestions from anyone??? :(

    • bomber2011

      yea so how do you fix the webcam feature anyone???

    • Larko

      here it keeps spinning and spinning, and never logs in, anyone knows what could this be?

    • Rob

      Im trying to use MSN 14.0.8089.726 by masking it as 15.4.3502.0922 on XP pro sp2

      no joy :(

    • iyaz

      after i click save it still says download the new version?

    • mica

      i successfully logged in with my old WLM 14.0.8050.1202 by setting the product version to 14.0.8117.416

    • og loc

      I have the same problem as Larko, just keeps spinning, i’ve tried various 14.*** version numbers with no avail. It accepts it as a recent version and does not ask for un update, just stalls at connecting.

      Also, if your Res Hack cannot save, it is because msnmsgr.exe process is still in use. Try exiting it from the system tray (bottom right of your taskbar), it may be hidden. That alone sometimes does not end the process and the Task Manager has to be used to end it (aka Ctrl-Alt-Del).

      @Kirsty
      Compiler Error in line 4 at offset 18
      Invalid statement: integer expected

      This means that the 4th line from the top of the script is experiencing an error in syntax. It expects an integer value meaning + or – whole numbers. Do NOT use decimals, you must use commas to separate integer values. Without seeing you actual script, I can’t verify that this is the problem but it’s my best guess.

    • Gustavo

      I tried getting that version quoted above but when I try to install it, it just wont do anything, after clicking on ¨run¨ it wont do anything else

    • Mudassar Ali

      Thx A lot, the above version info hack is 100% working and it solved my biggest problem…..

      Thanks!

    • jhny

      very nice tutorial, i also downgraded, havent tested the webcam options though, im in win 7 x64 using 14.0.8089.0726 in my pc thanks to this

      thanks

    • Gemma

      Yeah it happen to me its hard to Sigh in, can someone tell me how to sigh up.

    • Tom

      Not working for me, fresh Win 7 64 install.
      Tried with both 8 and 8.5.

    • mimi
    • anisha

      everything worked except the last part. it wont let me save :S

    • http://www.dfimat.tk mirjamv

      this method works to install the earlier version of meessenger, except you wont be able to get the webcam working when u chat with someone.. if anybody please knows a fix for that mail me on mirjampie @ hotmail . com

    • Cam

      so i’ve done all the hacker steps, but when it comes to saving it wont let me. “Cannot rename original file. Saving Cancelled” help please?

    • http://carillonavent.blogspot.com Wai Kit

      I’ve discovered that when you install an older version of MSN (2008 one, in my case), try to login, click no when asked to update, then install the 2009 version (overwrite, I got both versions from filehippo), it will work without asking you to install new version again.

    • sam

      hi to all pls my problem is the webcam when i connect to yahoo working and skype and windows live messenger new version video call working and when i back to the old version of msn the cam not working when i send my cam with my friends or trying to view the cam then the cam start downloading and stops, then the only problem i got is the webcam not working with old version my old version is 8.5 windows live messenger and i try all old version and always the same problem when i do cam to cam start downlaod and then stop with message cannot connect to cam try another time and now i got that problem for a week, thx for anyone who got solution

    • Mert

      if you have problems with saving the file, try save as option. Select any location you want. then cut the new copy and paste it to the messengers directory and replace the original file.

    • Haru

      It. Does. NOT. Work

      Cause you can’t save it. >.<

    • MarMar

      Guysss, to save it u have to first exit the messenger from the taskbar then do the trick & it will work like charm, unfortunately the webcam worked for a while but it is not working for me anymore, i dont know what happened :(

    • Anonymous

      I CAN SAVE IT. Anyway, it does NOT WORK. Microsoft have found a work around for this little hack.

    • Anonymous

      I CAN SAVE IT. Anyway it does NOT WORK. Microsoft have found a work around for this little hack.

    • Anonymous

      I CAN SAVE IT. Anyway it does NOT WORK. MSoft have found a work around to this little hack.

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