Anybody still using windows defender?

[acr]

MBAM and SAS do not provide realtime protection in their free version. Among the well known products only Windows defender, Spybot, Spyware Terminator, Iobit Security 360 provide realtime protection for free. But Spybot and ST are resource intensive and I don't trust Iobit anymore.

I believe Ad-aware free edition and Spyware Doctor Starter Edition both provide some real time protection- but there is probably nothing which KIS does not already provide. I would just tweak the KIS setting some and you would be pretty well protected. Then again, if you are determined to get additional protection maybe give Threatfire or WinPatrol free edition a try? I am not sure if they would conflict with KIS or not. Additionally, Facebook users have a free promo for Prevx Safe Online which is the paid Safe Online combined with the free Prevx program (monitors). If you are not going for MBAM with its IP protection then about the only program that would provide additional info/protection with KIS would probably be WinPatrol or Prevx Safe Online. Of course, Prevx free edition will monitor and alert and usually plays nicely with other programs.

There's also immunet protect which is still in early development but is supposed to be able to run alongside antivirus programs.

[sujay]

I believe Ad-aware free edition and Spyware Doctor Starter Edition both provide some real time protection

Yes..!! I forget to mention that. But I am afraid if Spyware Doctor Starter Edition removes threats.

but there is probably nothing which KIS does not already provide. I would just tweak the KIS setting some and you would be pretty well protected. Then again, if you are determined to get additional protection maybe give Threatfire or WinPatrol free edition a try? I am not sure if they would conflict with KIS or not.
There's also immunet protect which is still in early development but is supposed to be able to run alongside antivirus programs.

Right now I am using KIS CBE Win7 with immunet and Advanced System Protector Pro running side by side in my Desktop and in my laptop Norton IS, Immunet, The Cleaner and Winpetrol. That's sufficient I think. But I using talking about Windows defender because it came with Win7 and every time I open Action Centre, I find windows defender off under my antispyware protection. I know I have enough protection that windows defender can provide me but actually I don't like any of the softwares installed in my computer inactive. If it was not windows defender I would have uninstalled it. Because I think there is no way to uninstall windows defender (or, I am missing something??!!).

Additionally, Facebook users have a free promo for Prevx Safe Online which is the paid Safe Online combined with the free Prevx program (monitors).

I found that promo, downloaded and installed it, but could not activate it. So, right now it is not in my computer. Can u help me to activate it?

[acr]

Yes..!! I forget to mention that. But I am afraid if Spyware Doctor Starter Edition removes threats.



Right now I am using KIS CBE Win7 with immunet and Advanced System Protector Pro running side by side in my Desktop and in my laptop Norton IS, Immunet, The Cleaner and Winpetrol. That's sufficient I think. But I using talking about Windows defender because it came with Win7 and every time I open Action Centre, I find windows defender off under my antispyware protection. I know I have enough protection that windows defender can provide me but actually I don't like any of the softwares installed in my computer inactive. If it was not windows defender I would have uninstalled it. Because I think there is no way to uninstall windows defender (or, I am missing something??!!).



I found that promo, downloaded and installed it, but could not activate it. So, right now it is not in my computer. Can u help me to activate it?

Sounds like a question for the Prevx forum on wilders-

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104

IIRC- I think the program shows as a trial but the trial does not expire.

[leofelix]

Kaspersky 2010 provides a sufficient protection against spyware and adware.


KIS self registers as an antivirus an antispyware and as a firewall in Windows Security Center.
Windows Defender registers itself as antispyware.
As a result you might face problems.

However if you want to chek for Windows Defender updates, open Windows Defender, click on the question mark on the right top (?).
Now click on "Check for updates"
You have to do it manually, 2/3 times a day.

I have just taken a snapshot, it is in italian but I think is clear enough

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In regards to "advanced system protector"

http://www.spywarelib.com/ComparisonChart.aspx

And should we believe that comparison?

more: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/spywarelib.com

[sujay]

Kaspersky 2010 provides a sufficient protection against spyware and adware.

I am not concerned about ability of KIS. I know it is very good.

However if you want to chek for Windows Defender updates, open Windows Defender, click on the question mark on the right top (?).
Now click on "Check for updates"
You have to do it manually, 2/3 times a day.

As I have already said, that method of checking updates does no work always. After an update by this way, even if I try to update it say after 1 day, it says " no new definitions". But in the update server the database version is updated more than once a day.
http://www.microsoft.com/security/po...s/ADL.aspx#top

In regards to "advanced system protector"

http://www.spywarelib.com/ComparisonChart.aspx

And should we believe that comparison?

more: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/spywarelib.com

I know Advanced System Protector does not have a good reputation. But believe me that is because of the bad way of marketing. The product is really good and it really saved me sometimes when KIS missed something. SOmetimes these are false positives but often not. But the software has some bugs and the updates and not so frequent like MBAM or SAS.

[leofelix]

I know Advanced System Protector does not have a good reputation. But believe me that is because of the bad way of marketing. The product is really good and it really saved me sometimes when KIS missed something. SOmetimes these are false positives but often not. But the software has some bugs and the updates and not so frequent like MBAM or SAS.

You probably got a lot of false positive detections.

You cannot estimate an antivirus or an antimalware in regards to how many supposed threats it picked up and it is not wise to run multiple security softares with real time protection enabled, 'cause they will conflict one each other, they will cause false positive detections and last but not least BSOD.

It is wise to use common sense and brain.exe (credits go to Ceyfer for "brain.exe" ) instead.
A safe surfing, a good antivirus, a good personal firewall plus HIPS , a system monitor like WinPatrol, an anti-malware on demand, for a second opinion (like a-squared free or malwarebytes' antimalware free) a system fully up to date, main browser, SUN Java JRE, Adobe Reader and Adobe Flash player always up to date, autorun disabled are generally enough to protect a Windows based O.S.
You may also consider to use WOT as an add on for IE, Firefox or Google Chrome.

Cheers

[sujay]

You probably got a lot of false positive detections.

You cannot estimate an antivirus or an antimalware in regards to how many supposed threats it picked up and it is not wise to run multiple security softares with real time protection enabled, 'cause they will conflict one each other, they will cause false positive detections and last but not least BSOD.

You are absolutely correct.
Sometimes ASP does false positive detections. For example yesterday It suspected the installer of Unlocker as win32 Perite. But I had tested it with few malwares (I knew it were a malware but not detected by KIS later I submitted that to KIS and found to be malware) and it detected that correctly. That's why I believed it. It also does other genuine detections. But I use it's detection with caution obviously. But I never find it doing conflict or other dangerous things like BSOD.

You may also consider to use WOT as an add on for IE, Firefox or Google Chrome.

Cheers

I like WOT. But one thing I don't like about WOT is that it rates a webpage mainly based on users review. II know it has a partnership with Panda but WOT never tells what type of threat is present in the webpage etc....

[leofelix]

You are absolutely correct.
Sometimes ASP does false positive detections. For example yesterday It suspected the installer of Unlocker as win32 Perite. But I had tested it with few malwares (I knew it were a malware but not detected by KIS later I submitted that to KIS and found to be malware) and it detected that correctly. That's why I believed it. It also does other genuine detections. But I use it's detection with caution obviously. But I never find it doing conflict or other dangerous things like BSOD.

Well, that's not a false positive, Unlocker comes with ebay sponsor bundled, which is adware, even ESET NOD32 and Avira flag it as adware.

as for the rest (conflicts, crash, false positive, BSOD) you may find interesting the following review

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/12408

You might like to google and you'll discover that Microsoft doesn't suggest to use 2 antivirus, 2 antispyware with real time protection and 2 firewall on the same computer, for the same reason.

I like WOT. But one thing I don't like about WOT is that it rates a webpage mainly based on users review. II know it has a partnership with Panda but WOT never tells what type of threat is present in the webpage etc....

That is not completely correct: many security researchers and experts(Like HPHosts - MisteryMFC, for example) and Panda Security Labs do contribute to WOT.

If I were you I'd install Sanboxie (shareware/freeware) and RETURNIL Virtual Systems home 2010 free.

You'll be able to surf in a protected and safe environment and you'll be able to try many apps and programs virtually, without running the risk to infect you computer.


I'd also use a system image backup program like Macrium Reflect Free or Acronis True Image Home - paid.
If something goes wrong, you will able to restore your system easily.

Hope it helps